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      <title>Google Talk in other clients</title>
      <link>https://www.simplicidade.org/notes/2005/10/13/google-talk-in-other-clients/</link>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>melo@simplicidade.org (Pedro Melo)</author>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;From the &lt;a href=&#34;http://gaim.sourceforge.net/index.php?id=162&#34;&gt;Gaim site&lt;/a&gt;:&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I (Sean) have been hired by Google, moved to Seattle, and have been working on the Google Talk team for about a month and a half. The goal of Google Talk is to make real-time communication as open as possible, and in that regard, I&amp;rsquo;ve been working to offer all of Google Talk&amp;rsquo;s features into other clients. Currently, I&amp;rsquo;m working on making it as easy as possible for other clients to  use Google Talk&amp;rsquo;s voice features. You can expect Gaim and other clients to be interoperable with  Google Talk&amp;rsquo;s voice features in the near future.&lt;/p&gt;
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&lt;p&gt;Good, maybe they could start by documenting the protocol and let us all help out.&lt;/p&gt;
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      <title>skype for mac</title>
      <link>https://www.simplicidade.org/notes/2004/11/17/skype-for-mac/</link>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Nov 2004 10:23:52 +0000</pubDate>
      <author>melo@simplicidade.org (Pedro Melo)</author>
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      <description>&lt;p&gt;I installed the skype client for Mac some weeks ago, as soon as it was released. I&amp;rsquo;ve been letting it running in the background since then, and I used it 5 times at most.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I was interested because I would like to have a cross platform voice solution. My wife used Windows XP, and I would like to talk to her with VoIP as I&amp;rsquo;m away from home three to four days each week.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;My problem with skype is that you can never be sure the kind of performance you&amp;rsquo;ll get. Most of the time, my skype connection goes to the US before reaching the other side. We are both in the same provider, in Portugal, so this seems a bit stupid.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I know that the peer-to-peer design of skype is the root of this problems, but that makes skype inadequate for my purpose. I have tried the AIM 5.5 client (I use iChat AV everyday) but couldn&amp;rsquo;t get it to work. I think I&amp;rsquo;ll have to try harder.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;In terms of voice quality, if you get a good peer, it&amp;rsquo;s very good. But you cannot trust it to perform always at that level, due to it&amp;rsquo;s design. In that respect, the iChat AV/AIM client is better. The quality is not as good, but it&amp;rsquo;s reliable (when tested between iChat&amp;rsquo;s&amp;hellip;). And it supports video also, allowing me to put my iSight camera to good use.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;I also tried skype out with some friends in england. They where having a conference call: 2 guys with skype, calling Pedro via mobile phone, and me via fixed phone. It did work, the quality was acceptable, but it was very confusing.&lt;/p&gt;

&lt;p&gt;Let&amp;rsquo;s wait and see if the final version is better, but the peer-to-peer design doesn&amp;rsquo;t seem a good one to me.&lt;/p&gt;
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